Serious BS. - Speed Cameras

"CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever" (carsoffortlangley) 07/29/2019 at 13:08 • Filed to: None

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So, the use of photo-radar speed enforcement is not allowed in BC. However, as of today, red light cameras have been updated to ticket cars going 20km/h (12mp h) over the posted limit. How is this allowed?

“Cameras use software, not radar. So it can’t be photo radar”
The BC Government

Me:

facw > CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever 07/29/2019 at 13:13

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That’s bullshit. I’m not opposed to photo speed enforcement, but trying to weasel around existing laws is not cool (especially since it seems like it pretty much assures they will used for revenue generation rather than improving public safety) .

Under_Score > CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever 07/29/2019 at 13:13

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Is mapped  information like this why so many people like CarPlay?

Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo > CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever 07/29/2019 at 13:16

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I’m impressed by their exploitation of the literal language of the law.

benjrblant > CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever 07/29/2019 at 13:16

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i mean... 20kph over in a dense urban area is not insignificant- cameras or not.

CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever > facw 07/29/2019 at 13:16

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“Its to cut down on accidents”

Lets see how many accidents I cause when I brake hard on a green light to cut my speed before entering the intersection.

Textured Soy Protein > CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever 07/29/2019 at 13:20

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My town (Rockville, MD) has lots of speed and red light cameras. They have handy maps online too.

Speed:

Red light:

Those are just the city cameras, there’s also the Montgomery County cameras all around the surrounding areas just outside the city limits. 

I like cars: Jim Spanfeller is one ugly motherfucker > CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever 07/29/2019 at 13:21

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“Cameras use software, not radar. So it can’t be photo radar”

...I mean, technically correct? A camera doesn’t send radiation to detect, but like, this is totally against the spirit of the law.

Also, check your municipal code. In my city you don’t actually have to pay the fines they issue since there’s no enforcement method- never goes to insurance, police, bmv, nothing.

CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever > benjrblant 07/29/2019 at 13:22

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I guess, but not too hard to hit.  I guess I am mostly salty because there is one next to my house.

CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever > I like cars: Jim Spanfeller is one ugly motherfucker 07/29/2019 at 13:23

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If I don’t pay the tickets, I can’t renew my insurance. They have that covered.

VajazzleMcDildertits - read carefully, respond politely > CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever 07/29/2019 at 13:23

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In our neck of the woods I thought the red light cameras would only trigger if you were not in front of the line when it goes red. But half of those cameras also turned out to be 11 over speed cameras. They got me a few times on that.

Now I just have a car that I can take down to below 10 over and back to 10 over in a convenient time. 

vicali > CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever 07/29/2019 at 13:28

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A utomated speed enforcement cameras. Still better than these guys;

I see two made it to Kelowna..

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Textured Soy Protein > I like cars: Jim Spanfeller is one ugly motherfucker 07/29/2019 at 13:29

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Where I live there are plentiful traffic enforcement cameras. While there are no late fees, you can’t renew your registration without first paying any outstanding camera tickets. 

Milky > CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever 07/29/2019 at 13:32

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You know what to do.

merged-5876237249235911857-hrw8uc > benjrblant 07/29/2019 at 13:32

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Well in freedom units that’s only like 2-3mph right ;). 

Highlander-Datsuns are Forever > CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever 07/29/2019 at 13:33

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I mean this is the literal definition of photo radar speed enforcement, how can it be in compliance with the law? When is the first suit going to be filed against the state?

CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever > vicali 07/29/2019 at 13:35

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Honestly.. I may catch heat for this..

While I acknowledge that “speed kills” or whatever, the majority of collisions these days are from distracted driving.

Speed enforcement is just an easy out. Cops (organizations, not officers) love ticketing fancy cars, making a pithy tweet about it and rolling in those likes.

It is a low hanging fruit to appease pearl clutchers and Helen Lovejoy types.

We should be really cracking down on 1) safety violations on commercial vehicles and 2 ) distracted driving.

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fintail > CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever 07/29/2019 at 13:36

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But safety! Think of the children!

My anecdotal observations in the lower mainland shows a much greater issue with running red lights than simple speeding.  

CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever > Highlander-Datsuns are Forever 07/29/2019 at 13:37

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But photo radar is indeed radar triggered.

The cameras now simply track your distance covered/time elapsed through the intersection with software and ticket appropriately .

atfsgeoff > CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever 07/29/2019 at 13:38

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A trip around the area with a ski mask and paintball gun is most certainly not advised

CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever > atfsgeoff 07/29/2019 at 13:41

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If my wife wasn’t actually employed by the police...I’d be tempted.

Sucks man!  

farscythe - makin da cawfee! > CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever 07/29/2019 at 13:44

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eh... be happy you arent in the netherlands.... everything is a speed camera

trailer cam

trash cam

skibox cam

CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever > farscythe - makin da cawfee! 07/29/2019 at 13:44

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Fuck that!!!

vicali > CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever 07/29/2019 at 13:44

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Agreed, distracted driving is 100% out of control. The RCMP do ‘crackdown’ weekends and write 250 tickets.. I’m not sure why we aren’t doing that 24/7..

But then when was the last time you saw an RCMP doing speed patrol on the highway? I’ve seen one or two ‘traps’ on the Coq - but you used to see them doing that everywhere.

farscythe - makin da cawfee! > CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever 07/29/2019 at 13:45

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agreed

I like cars: Jim Spanfeller is one ugly motherfucker > Textured Soy Protein 07/29/2019 at 13:46

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That makes sense as an enforcement mechanism, but we have no such mechanism here whatsoever.

fintail > CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever 07/29/2019 at 13:54

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The lower mainland also needs progressive penalties.  It’d be hilarious to perform an audit of the monies behind these cars.

Mid Engine > CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever 07/29/2019 at 14:05

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It has noth ing to do with public safety, it’s all about generating revenue. 

When I lived in Portland, Oregon everyone drove the posted speed limit because if you went even five over you’d get a ticket. I got a speeding ticket because my car “sounded fast and therefore I was likely speeding”. Ca n’t make this shit up. Fuck cops.

Wacko > CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever 07/29/2019 at 14:28

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I was in the Montreal area two weeks ago going 110 on a 100kmh freeway, and I was flashed in the face then I saw the flash from my mirror from a lamp post.

I still didn’t get the ticket, and I hope I don’t Since I was only 10 over the limit.  

Wrong Wheel Drive (41%) > Highlander-Datsuns are Forever 07/29/2019 at 15:18

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Using a photo and plotting distance versus time is going to be less accurate than radar probably. By selecting 20+ over, there is probably no way to argue out of that ticket. Because even if the accuracy is +/- 10 then you are still going at least 10 over anyways. 

smobgirl > Wacko 07/29/2019 at 15:27

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I’m surprised the flashes don’t cause accidents, especially at night. They always scare the bejesus out of me.

SilentButNotReallyDeadly...killed by G/O Media > CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever 07/29/2019 at 19:12

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Every police vehicle in my town is equipped with speed detection gear. And the highway patrol cars have automatic registration checking software (when in mobile phone range).

Fixed speed cameras/red light cameras simply target the wilfully stupid. Therefore, they deserve it.

And then there’s the fines ...

https://www.armstronglegal.com.au/traffic-law/other/speeding-penalties#speedingnsw

DipodomysDeserti > farscythe - makin da cawfee! 07/29/2019 at 22:22

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Cactus cam

farscythe - makin da cawfee! > DipodomysDeserti 07/29/2019 at 22:54

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ooo sneaky

pip bip - choose Corrour > CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever 07/30/2019 at 04:02

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try telling that to our governments too

you’ll get laughed out of court and the country

pip bip - choose Corrour > farscythe - makin da cawfee! 07/30/2019 at 04:03

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they tried the bin cameras in Canberra but people power got them to retract them